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AOC accuses Chicago prosecutor of ‘lying’ about police killing of 13-year-old Adam Toledo
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25 responses to “AOC accuses Chicago prosecutor of ‘lying’ about police killing of 13-year-old Adam Toledo”
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Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx claimed that the prosecutor “failed to fully inform himself before speaking in court.”
“The prosecutor did not ‘make an error.’ He lied,” AOC tweeted…
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The prosecutor told the judge the kid had a gun in his hand when he was shot. All of us saw the video, and the prosecutor would have seen the video before he said that.
So yes, that prosecutor openly and obviously lied to the judge. Absolutely no question that she is correct.
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I love the default AOC-concern-face that is used for every article where she is mentioned.
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Prosecutors who lie to protect murderers are accomplices to the murderers. The DOJ needs to get involved because clearly the local systems of justice are in cahoots with the criminal cops. The DOJ needs to charge and arrest not only the criminal cops, but the prosecutors and anyone else involved in covering up the crime.
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Damn, is it really that hard to say “he was in possession of a loaded firearm moments before he was shot” instead? There goes your credibility.
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It’s not an accusation. That’s exactly what the prosecutor did.
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It’s not accusing it’s pointing out. Accusing makes it sound like it might not have happened.
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As someone else pointed out, CBS edited out a small part of the officers body cam. Regardless where you stand on this, this is a major problem itself and I feel it deserves it own post and hopefully gets some attention.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1382817430314057730
That was CBS’s edited clip.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1382858643779973121
And here’s the full video. At the 2:04 mark, this split second was cut from CBS. Now again, it doesn’t matter if you believe the cop was in the right, or wrong. It doesn’t matter what you think about the kids intentions with the gun. The fact a major news organization is trying to deceptively edit a clip to push a narrative (what other reason would there be, honestly?) disturbs me quite a bit. This shouldn’t be a controversial stance and they deserve to be called out for it. I was truly shocked when I saw this.
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why is lying in quotes
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every single article is about adam being killed at this point, i’ve waded through a few articles trying , but what led up to that happening i guess is what i was trying to find. i’m not looking for an excuse for the officer or anything. just wondering what he was doing with the gun in the first place?
never mind
>Police were responding to reports of shots fired in the mostly Latino Little Village neighborhood on the city’s southwest side. They said the boy had a handgun on him a split-second before the fatal shooting and apparently tossed it to the ground.
so they dont even know if he was firing shots or had jack shit to do with it.
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I’m confused, isn’t a prosecutor supposed to be prosecuting the criminal element in the case?
Isn’t the defense supposed to be the one trying to validate and clear the criminal.
Since a 13 year old child was gunned down by a trigger happy cop, shouldn’t it be the cop who is the one defending himself as he is in fact the murderer?
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[This video](https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/16/adam-toledo-enhanced-video-chicago-police-shooting-body-cam-13-year-old-killed/) seems to show that he did have a gun in his hand and threw it at the exact same time he was turning around. less than 1 second from visible gun in hand to no gun in hand as he is turning towards the officer. A still frame of the boy without the gun in his hand does not tell the story as it happened. It is tragic. But please, no matter how you feel about it, be factual about the circumstances.
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I don’t know how I would react in the same situation where the child had a gun a split-second before, but that’s one of the reasons I wouldn’t be a cop. We need people who *can* react appropriately in those split seconds without deadly force unless absolutely unavoidable.
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This is kind of bullshit. If you watch the video, the kid did have a gun in his hand a split second before he was shot. He tossed the gun but he was trying to hide it at the same time so it wasn’t clear from the perspective of the cop that he dropped it. It’s a damn shame but this wasn’t a malicious murder. I’ll try to explain it better.
The kid is running from the cop down an alley with a gun. The cop is chasing him as the kid reaches a gap in the fence which would probably take him into someones back yard. The kid pauses for a second with his back still facing the cop. Cop can’t see how young the kid is. So the kid is standing there in the gap, his left shoulder leaning on the side of the fence. The fence is made of wooden planks. You can’t see through it like a wire fence. While the kids back is facing the cop, you can see the gun in right hand. The kid then turns around really fast and tossed the gun behind the fence as he turning. So it’s totally misleading to simply say he didn’t have a gun. The cop couldn’t see that he tossed it because the fence so it’s totally understandable that he thought the still had the gun.
Sure, the prosecutor should have been more clear but what happened wasn’t a cold blooded killing. Maybe the cop could have given the kid different orders but I doubt anyone knows what it feels like to be in the cops shoes. He knows he has a gun, the kid spins, and in that moment, you’re thinking it’s him or me.
No doubt, law enforcement is totally fucked in this country. But the issue shouldn’t be muddied with unfortunate situations like this one.
I actually looked a lot like this kid when I was that age. So did a lot of my family. And I’ve done something very similar when I was young and drinking beer in parks. Cops would come and i would trying to toss it as if they wouldn’t know it was mine. It breaks my heart. The kid didn’t mean to harm the cop but it sure hell looked like he might have.
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Admittedly I’m basing this statement on a video that I honestly did not vet – it’s not as b&w as a lot of the other examples. According to the one I saw which slowed down the video with arrows highlighting the action, the kid did appear to have something and threw it away within the split second of the warning and the shot firing.
My bigger concern is that split second warning and reaction by the cop.
Also wtf is a 13 year old doing outside at 2:30AM? Victim blaming? A little but doesn’t warrant an execution by a cop.
https://odysee.com/@CWBChicago:7/Two-Minute-Compilation-Video-Slowed-Down-With-Captions:3
I’m not defending the cop. I’m a just sharing more info in case you missed it. The cops have lied too many times in the past to be trusted.
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Why did the cop have the flashlight flashing so quiclly like that?
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I actually agree that the prosecutor did not inform themselves and didn’t purposely lie. Which is WAY worse. As a prosecutor if you fail to take your case seriously and go before a judge and make statements without knowledge you are committing huge errors not simply bending the case your way. People lie in court all the time, but coming in without knowledge of the case is way worse.
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The video footage says otherwise.
Chicago is a wild place. I would never want to be a cop there. Unfortunately these kids are introduced to the streets at a VERY young age. They had a 13 year old girl running around shooting at opposing gangs before she herself was unfortunately killed.
A few years back, a 15 year old boy was killed. He went by the name tooka. To this day his name is used in rap songs and disrespected. You’d imagine he was some big time gang banger. But the reality is he was just a poor kid with no guidance or direction.
Unless you actually live there, none of us can fully understand what it’s like in those neighborhoods. It’s sad because this poor kid was a product of his environment. I doubt he’d be running around with a gun at 2:30 in the morning if he grew up in some suburb in Chicago.
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The kid had a gun. I don’t know how to freeze the video, but it’s around 10 frames before he gets shot. He tries to turn to the officer while throwing it behind the fence.
https://youtu.be/TkB4_nIfODo?t=10
I like AOC, but she’s straight wrong on this one.
EDIT: So the cop saw the gun from behind, and as the kid is turning, the cop has maybe .25 seconds to make a decision to shoot as his hands are coming up. He had no way of knowing if his hand were coming up to surrender or shoot.
I don’t think this is cut and dry cop murder like everyone is making it out to be.
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This one isn’t as clear cut to me as so many others. I think the age is clouding the arguments. He was armed. The video is so fast paced and he whips around pretty fast. — With that said, shouldn’t there be like rules of engagement or something? Seems like so many of these shootings are because the cops are operating out of fear first and foremost. They act like every perp is a fucking sharpshooter that is going to headshot them.
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Just so it is made aware the kid did have a gun but followed orders to drop it.
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It’s cuz he lied is why she’s saying that
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You know your case is indefensible when you have to make stuff up
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Mannnn that angle is deceiving. Find the security footage from the ally NOT way across the road.
Tough call for the cop in the moment. No charges will come of this.
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